Battlestar Galactica - There are those who Believe
BSG Cylon Race
Some time ago, I read that the Cylons were originally designed and built by a dying reptilian race called the Cylons. As much as this race hated humans, they found the human design the most efficient to serve them. Recently, a link appeared on this site about the Cylons of Battlestar Galactica ( http://www.moviematics.com/2010/08/27/the-cylons-on-battlestar-gala... ). This post claims the humans designed and built the Cylons. Obviously, this is a contradiction. I can see merits in both storylines.
1 Where the Cylons and the humans had a less than cordial meeting which caused the Cylons to hate the humans so much that they would build a robotic race, complete with series from workers to managers to warriors to serve the dying race and annihilate the humans. In the time that the wars went on, the reptilians died off and the Cylon war machines continued self replicate. (Klingons meet humans theme)
2 Where the human built the Cylons for performing menial and dangerous tasks and the Cylons becoming self aware and rebelling. (Planet of the Apes theme).
As I go over these scenarios, I am more tempted to go with the latter theme since Planet of the Apes was very popular at the time.
1 Where the Cylons and the humans had a less than cordial meeting which caused the Cylons to hate the humans so much that they would build a robotic race, complete with series from workers to managers to warriors to serve the dying race and annihilate the humans. In the time that the wars went on, the reptilians died off and the Cylon war machines continued self replicate. (Klingons meet humans theme)
2 Where the human built the Cylons for performing menial and dangerous tasks and the Cylons becoming self aware and rebelling. (Planet of the Apes theme).
As I go over these scenarios, I am more tempted to go with the latter theme since Planet of the Apes was very popular at the time.
Tags: BSG, Base, Cylon, Ship, War
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Permalink Reply by Jonathon Jacob on -
I honestly can say that I don't remember hearing the scenario with the reptilian race before... Was this conceived in one of the paperback book series, or was this mentioned in the original series?
(You've got me curious now) Some of the following is my own supposition.
The reptilian race senario is obviously not the senario of the reimagined series - in that series the original cylons were bread to be soldiers and workers for the humans (as also described in the series Caprica, a prequil to the reimagines series). Those boxy-looking cylons gained sentience and rebelled against the human race to fight their status as slaves. Living isolated from the humans, they continued to evolve and improve thier efficiency. Eventually they began experiments on adapting living tissue and ended up creating cyborg-like races (the fighter ships, for example. The fighters were described by Sharon "Boomer" Velarii as "pets" in the episode Six Degrees of Seperation indicating that they may have been sentient animals before being adapted into the fighters. I have always assumed that the new cylon soldiers in the reimagined series were a hybrid as well as they had devices to block thier higher brain functions - referred to "higher brain inhibitors" in the episode Six of One). Realizing the complexities, efficiency, and capabilities of the human mind, they began experiments on creating human-hybrids. Initially using humans to operate thier core systems (turning humans into a slave race for the cylons) they began creating working on full human clone-hybrids (what the humans called "skin jobs").
With nothing but time and the efficiency of machines, they were able to use the first human-cylon war to gather prisoners to use in these experiments. Once perfected, the skin-jobs were able to devise a plan to wipe the emotion-flawed humans from existance. Only later do they come to realize that these emotions were a part of themselves as hybrids, and they had to choose to embrace their humanity or die. -
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Permalink Reply by Al Bartraw on -
Sorry Jonathan, don't recall where I had read it. I kinda liked the reptilian race scenario though. In my opinion, the re-imaged series just went too far with having Cylons create the androids and find that they actually had human traits, which was eluded to from the beginning as I remember. There are so many possibilities they could have gone through but we go back to the humans being so superior that even artificial life forms would inherit their "soul" for a lack of a better term here. We see this over and over again in so much of modern Sci Fi and that gets old. Give me some Borg, Dalek and Cybermen type aliens any day!!
Oh well, which ever way you like em, the fact is that we all love BSG and no matter how they came to be, Cylons as well. (although for advanced computers, they usually had lousy aim!! ;8-) -
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Permalink Reply by Jonathon Jacob on
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I hear you... I have always wondered about the "soul" issue, but I file that under sci-fi "doesn't matter" catagory...
Remember, even the Borg, Dalek, Cybermen and even Shadow Telepaths (Babylon 5) all had emotions and individual conciousness once the machine parts were either pushed aside or deactivated... :-) just sayin....
Oh yeah, I have ALWAYS had issue with the poor aim of robots - especially when they fight humans (unless they are red-shirts)... -
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Permalink Reply by Paul Nix on -
if i remember right, in Classic BSG the Cylon robots were built by a reptile-like race, but in the re-imaged the Cylons were built by man and rebelled then evolved into the human-like models.
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Permalink Reply by David james kearney on -
Yep, you have it right. Appolo explained the origens of the Cylons to Boxey while looking for fuel on the planet carolon. He also said the reptilian Cylons died out thousands of yaren ago, I think that was before their war with the humans.
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Permalink Reply by Daniel Allan on -
That isnt the only similarity. The Cylons had originally been a reptilian race that created the CYlons to do They're menial tasks as well as contribute to the Cylon s quest to conquer the Universe. the problem was the Cylon Programming didnt specify not killing the Cylons themselves and soon the reptilian Cylons were exterminated by the robot Cylons.
they first met the humans when the humans came t aid of the Hasari a peaceful civilization that the the Cybernetic Cylons had harassed and slated for extermination.
thats how the 500 yahren war started..
now move to re imagined BSG
The Cylons again were created to serve and ultimately rebelled sparking the great Cylon War. which lasted until both sides were forced into a stalemate. they agreed to to give the CYlons their freedom and the ability to go forth and start their own colony\civilization.
after a forty year absence the Cylons returned to finish the job they had started... the Extermination of mankind.
If you would like to get more information on the Classic BSG version read the fan fiction article "History of the Colonies" its a compilation of transcripts from the original BSG scripts and the Encyclopedia Galactica.. -
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Permalink Reply by Daniel Allan on
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http://battlestarfanclub.com/group/battlestargalacticafanfiction/fo...
here is the link to learn the history of the Classic Battlestar Galactica
this was a compilation of information obtained from the original Scripts of BSG and the Encyclopedia Galactica -
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Permalink Reply by SherryJo on -
The recent link you were referring based in the realm of Caprica but I tend to lean toward the version that says a dying race created the cylons
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Permalink Reply by Keith Wild on -
In the Original BSG the Cylon race was Reptilian and created the cylon robots as workers but then the mechines turned on their masters and wiped out most of the race save a few thats where the Imperious Leader comes from all be it he is a high bred, in the Galactica 1980 series the cylons had created a few humanoid cylons.
In the reimagined series is where the humans created the cylons as robots to serve them but they rebeled and that was start of the first cylon war then the cylons disappeared for many years and then when they came back they were humanoid.
hope that helps
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Permalink Reply by Daniel Allan on
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Your right, it was in the dvd box set
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Permalink Reply by James D Logan on
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In the Original series, we actually see some of these true Cyclons in the Basestars. They are often seen sitting on a very high seat (as we see Baltar sitting at often as well) but we don't get told much about them that I remember. I also remember having the action figure of the alien Cylon as well. This was one of the points that upset me with the new version wherein the humans created the Cylons.
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