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How Many Battlestars Were There In All? General Consensus 12 and then 120 Maybe...
How Many Battlestars Were There?
Originally 12, one per planet. Later it looks like there were ten per planet/colony, and thus a total of about 120. Considering that there were about 25 billion people on 12 planets, there should have been AT LEAST that many...Personally if I were trying to defend planets from a real enemy, I would be shooting for 100-1000 per planet...Not at all unreasonable considering the large populations and nearly unlimited resources. I do remember hearing the number of 70 at one time too, but I have no idea what episode that was on, or if it was original or re-imagined BSG. ALSO...I'm SURE some were mothballed or on patrol or exploring the universe, so there HAD to be others that survived but never hooked up with the Galactica fleet...Thus...SURELY there are other Colonists hidden away in astroid fields, moons, remote and hostile planets, etc., secretly building and propagating, and waiting for the chance and opportunity to retake the homelands! :o)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_(fictional_spaceship)
List of Battlestars
Out of about 120 battlestars (Kara Thrace described a loss of thirty as being "almost a quarter of the fleet"), relatively few are known. The Galactica is a model from the Galactica class of battlestar. The Pegasus is from the newer Mercury class of battlestar.
- Galactica
- Pegasus
- Columbia (two battlestars bearing this name are known to have existed)
- Atlantia
- Triton
- Valkyrie
- Mercury
- Solaria
- Athena
- Yashuman
- Vortex (seen on a report given by Dualla to Gaeta during the attack)
- Uned (seen on a report given by Dualla to Gaeta during the attack)
- Erasmus (seen on a report on Adama's desk when searching for a new CAG)
- Night Flight (seen on a report on Adama's desk when searching for a new CAG)
Of these the first Columbia was destroyed during Operation Raptor Talon at the close of the First Cylon war. Yashuman was disabled by the CNP backdoor in the first minutes of the Fall of the Twelve Colonies and was presumably destroyed along with most of the rest of the Fleet (these events occurred off screen). The Pegasus just escaped the Fall of the Scorpion Ship yards by a blind jump and was destroyed around two years later at the Battle of New Caprica. The Galactica escaped the Fall and spent the next four or so years protecting the civilian fleet. Badly crippled while destroying the Cylon colony, Galactica and its fleet were piloted into the Sun after the survivors landed on Earth.
http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/41166-How-many-Battlestars-were-...
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Permalink Reply by Luke Engelhardt on
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If you were to scale the Battlestar to current times it would be the equivalent of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. The United States maintains a total of 10 in active service therefore it would make sense that there would be at least 10 per Planet for minimum total of 120.
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Permalink Reply by John David "Buzzsaw" Feagin on
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Agreed, and if war with the Cylons remained a possibility after the armistice, I would THINK they would have shot for many more. Considering the population of the colonies was supposed to be about 25 billion people, that's not many vipers to defend the human race. Granted, there would have been land based squadrons of fighters-vipers and atmospheric fighters, etc. Some BSG sites show an equivalent to the "Buck Rogers" fighter as being the main atmospheric fighter, with two engines, thus saving on fuel during atmospheric flight. So far as I can tell from the research I've done, there were supposed to be about 120 in the re-imagined series, and maybe 70 at the high point in the original series. In the original series, only the small fleet of about 7 or so remained at the time of the attack, and then only the Galactica and Pegasus escaped. If I were trying to defend the human race from Cylons, I would want at least 100 battlestars per planet...and a thousand would be better. They did have the resources on 12 colonial planets, not counting moons and astroid fields. Anyway, 120 seems to be the consensus as far as I can tell. Also to consider...the USA alone made huge fleets of warships during WWII. After the war most were mothballed, sold to other countries, or turned into artificial riefs. So,it IS possible to mass produce such ships, especially if one really puts their mind and resources to it in a assembly line fashion. There would be no need really to mothball space craft. They don't rust in outer space, though cosmic rays may be a factor. If they are not constantly jumping, there should be no significant metal fatigue. Also...Hmmmmm...I was wondering what the Cylons did with all of those BIG base stars from the original series...They were bigger than even the Pegasus in the re-imagined series. Oh well...I guess we won't know until we return to retake our homeland! Maybe they've mothballed theirs and we can procure them via unconventional means. :o)
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The more I think about it, it would seem that there really should have been more than just ten per planet. Consider the fact that to protect an entire planet from a surprise attack with the FTL jump hit and run technology and tactics of the time…You would need a good screen of ships around the planet to protect from such attacks that could come from any direction. You would also need some fleets to patrol the space between the planets and carefully watch the armistice line with the Cylons. That would necessarily take lots of battlestars, even if they sent out raptors to do recon jumps on a regular basis. It would make sense to guard the planets with the larger battlestars and let the smaller Valkyrie types both guard and perform recon missions. (By the way, to my understanding, historically speaking, smaller and faster frigates and the like typically ended up engaging the enemy more than the heavy hitter ships of the line like the men of war ever did. There were more of them and they were used for patrols and encountered the enemy…Only if the enemy felt confident, would they risk large fleet battles with the big boys.) Oh well, I guess I have a “cold war” mentality, and my views were not shared by those who believed that the armistice would prevent further attacks. That seems to go with the theme of the cycle of time portrayed in the series. Success leads to complacency and decadence, followed by destruction, and then…hopefully recovery and restoration. “All of this has happened before, and will happen again…” In the end though, I guess it really doesn’t matter anyway…The Cylon’s cyber attack did its job, no matter how many battlestars you had up and running at the time. More battlestars though, would have allowed more time to “adapt” after discovering what was going on. Anyway, HOPEFULLY we will have learned our lesson and not let our guard down again after we regain our homeland…By now much of the radiation should have subsided to the point that the planets can again be colonized…if not, we can re-establish our selves in other colonies throughout the galaxy. “Eternal Vigilance.”
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Another thing to consider is that in the real world a carrier doesn’t move without its fleet a minimum of 2 screening destroyers or frigates, one aegis cruiser, and sometimes one attack sub. So assuming scaling again we are left with the conclusion that a minimum of 10 battlestars plus 4 different purposed non capitol ships per battlestar that means that all of the twelve colonies spaced 400 black space navy1 combat ships in addition they would have had to have many more support ships.
They probably also had Expeditionary Strike Group again assuming scaling US equals one of the colonies each colony would have had approximately 10 Expeditionary Strike Group for the most part would probably consist of landing assault ship (amphibious assault ship) that mainly have assault shuttles2 and some vipers a space dock ship (Dock Landing Ship) a landing transport dock (Amphibious transport dock) and lastly some destroyers and frigates and again the BSG equivalent of an aegis cruiser. Don’t forget about the required logistical ships.
As for defending the colonies from a surprise attack by a hostile navy I would think would have a network of black space1 remote unmanned probes that would detect any Cylon incursion2 into Human space with enough to launch an intercept battlestar strike group. Much like our satellite network detects foreign navies around the world.
1. Black space / blue space is the logical sci-fi adaption of blue navy/brown navy and has nothing to do with skin color.
2. This author recognizes the 1978 T.V. show as the one only cannon everything else is not BSG, therefore Raptors do not exist and FLT travel requires taking time to cross the innerving space just as it does in Star Trek.
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Sounds very reasonable. Also, I caught the "black space navy" stuff! Good modernization of terms! I'm not sure what the equivalent of "brown space navy" would be...I guess planet based forces...and in that case you might also have carriers conveniently positioned on the oceans, and a blue and brown navy as well. That would allow for more convenient refueling and more timely responce once an enemy attack was detected.
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My views is this a brown navy is now called blue, because the operational range of that navy is that of a star system that has a planet that has nitrogen oxygen atmosphere and thus the sky is blue. The blue space navy would have some FLT capable ships but they would mostly be large cargo ships that would take fighter and the like from one system to another and would not be able to combat launch said fighters. The Earth like planets would have Space Stations as well as ground launched fighters capable of near planetary space flight. So the GMP that would be saved by not building a black space navy would instead go it to lots and lots of fighters and small two manned craft designed to carry a heaver pay load than that of Viper and effectively become torpedo bombers.
the other option is to call the brown navy after the spectral class of the sun but on second thought I don't want to be know as the yellow navy.
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Ha ha ha ha! Nope! No yellow Navy!
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I had that very same thought...whose to say that a small group of battlestars didnt do wut cmdr. Caine did in the original series you know head out into deep space to regroup refit and re engage at a later date of thier choosing all the while exicuting picket raids to see wut the strength is on the occupied planets......
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I see the pegasus on ur list wut was she on the classic she seemed to b a newer of the same class as the galactica but in the new series she was bigger.....i was thinkin titan class
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Yes. On the original they all seemed to be the same design. In the re-imagined series, I believe the Pegasus is a Mercury Class Battlestar.
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